Chapter 2: Measures, products and systems

[ALEO Admin]

Questions from "Chapter 2: Measures, products and systems" of the Green Deal Consultation are given below. If you have any comments on these questions please post them here.

More information including the full consultation documentation is available at:
http://www.decc.gov.uk/en/content/cms/c ... _deal.aspx.

8. Which measures should be added to the list of qualifying measures in Annex A for non-domestic properties, and what evidence is there that these measures improve the energy performance of buildings?

9.Will the existing Appendix Q process, which will allow new measures to be added to the Green Deal assessment tools, and to the list of qualifying improvements, support innovation in the market and how could the process be improved? In particular, what support could SMEs benefit from?

10. What innovative ways can the government use to encourage uptake of a package of measures and could our existing proposals support this.

11. Please provide views on the potential inclusion of hard-to-treat cavities (and potentially other measures of a similar type), and proposals for how properties might be accommodated in the ECO without excessive complication or perverse consequences.

12. We propose that the ECO Carbon Saving obligation should be achieved primarily by promoting and installing solid wall insulation. Should any other measures be supported, and how would these be defined?

13. For the ECO Carbon Saving obligation, we propose that any other carbon saving measures should only be eligible when delivered as part of a package with solid wall insulation. Do you have any suggestions for the criteria by which eligibility within packages should be restricted, explaining why you think any such restrictions should be included?

14. We propose that any measure should be allowed under the Affordable Warmth obligation, provided it allows eligible households to heat homes more affordably. If you disagree, or feel there are risks to this approach, please explain and set out any restrictions you believe should be put in place.

15. Do you have any suggestions for whether and how we should score, boiler repairs under the Affordable Warmth obligation, such that where repairs are more cost-effective than replacement systems, without significant impact on efficiency, these can be promoted?

16. We are proposing that any heating measures should be allowed under the Affordable Warmth obligation, including for households off the gas grid, and extra incentives should not be put in place for air or ground source heat pumps. Do you have any evidence to bring to bear on the performance of heat pumps to improve the ability of vulnerable households to heat their homes affordably?

17. To what extent can existing product lists, such as the list of Microgeneration Certification Scheme compliant products be used as the starting point for the Green Deal Products list?

18. Do you agree that allowing enhanced product performance to be recognised in the Green Deal financing mechanism is useful? Do you have any specific views on how this approach could be implemented?

[ALEO Admin]

East Midlands CAN discussed chapter 5 at their forum meeting in Leicester on 9 December 2011. The results are given below and will form the basis of CAN's response to chapter 5 the Green Deal consultation. If you have anything else you'd like us to consider in our response to DECC please post it below or under the relevant chapter headings, alternative you can also email me your comments directly at rob.leeson@can.uk.net. Please note DECC's dealine for responses is 18 January 2011. Thank you for your help on this.

Q8: Which measures should be added to the list of qualifying measures in Annex A for non-domestic properties, and what evidence is there that these measures improve the energy performance of buildings?
Not relevant to CAN, as non-domestic properties, although voltage optimisation was suggested.

Q9: Will the existing Appendix Q process, which will allow new measures to be added to the Green Deal assessment tools, and to the list of qualifying improvements, support innovation in the market and how could the process be improved? In particular, what support could SMEs benefit from?
Not relevant to CAN

Q10: What innovative ways can the government use to encourage the uptake of a package of measures and could our existing proposals support this?
Publication of EPC database.
Incentivisation is vital.
Independent marketing by central government, so not seen as linked to companies.
Impartial advice is necessary.

Q11: Please provide views on the potential inclusion of hard-to-treat cavities (and potentially other measures of a similar type), and proposals for how properties might be accommodated in the ECO without excessive complication or perverse consequences.
Should be included to encourage utilities to innovate.
Quick assessment might not pick up on issues with hard-to-treat cavities.

Q12: We propose that the ECO Carbon Saving obligation should be achieved primarily by promoting and installing solid wall insulation. Should any other measures be supported, and how would these be defined?
Flat roofs, attic conversions, dormer properties.
Park homes – could sub-meter and pay back through council tax?

Q13: For the ECO Carbon Saving obligation, we propose that any other carbon saving measures should only be eligible when delivered as part of a package with solid wall insulation. Do you have any suggestions for the criteria by which eligibility within packages should be restricted, explaining why you think any such restrictions should be included?
No other restrictions

Q14: We propose that any measure should be allowed under the Affordable Warmth obligation, provided it allows eligible households to heat homes more affordably. If you disagree, or feel there are risks to this approach, please explain and set out any restrictions you believe should be put in place.
Prioritised list of measures, starting with insulation.
Priority/vulnerable customers should still get free insulation and not have to pay for it under ECO/Green Deal.
Modelling is not necessarily what happens in reality.

Q15: Do you have any suggestions for whether and how we should score, boiler repairs under the Affordable Warmth obligation, such that where repairs are more cost-effective than replacement systems, without significant impact on efficiency, these can be promoted?
Repair is better than replace but need to take in to account cost of repair and efficiency of boiler compared to new one.

Q16: We are proposing that any heating measures should be allowed under the Affordable Warmth obligation, including for households off the gas grid, and extra incentives should not be put in place for air or ground source heat pumps. Do you have any evidence to bring to bear on the performance of heat pumps to improve the ability of vulnerable households to heat their homes affordably?
No comment

Q17: To what extent can existing product lists, such as the list of Microgeneration Certification Scheme compliant products be used as the starting point for the Green Deal Products list?

Q18: Do you agree that allowing enhanced product performance to be recognised in the Green Deal financing mechanism is useful? Do you have any specific views on how this approach could be implemented?

[ALEO Admin]

Below are some comments received via email from Paul Maplethorpe, East Pennine CAN Chair:

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Q 12 NO other measures should be considered it should not be viewed as a solid wall ECO scheme consideration should be given to hard to treat cavities in all tenures.

Q13 again no for reason Q12 What about flats where external wall insulation may be impractical also what about listed buildings it should not be a package of measures offered but what is appropriate for the property in hand which may be only one measure.

Q15 only a A rated boilers should be repaired rest should be replaced to A rated Warm Front boilers should be replaced